Epicmafia

Keep Players Alive, Town

over 9 years

The more the merrier! If everyone knows a confirmed mafia, but there's still a mafia left in CC's (or something similar), then today you should go for the CC's instead of confirmed. That sounds counter-intuitive, but let's think it through.

e.g. 1 confirmed mafia revealed by orc, 2 clears, 2 cop claims. it's day.

If you lynch the confirmed today, you're just going to get a clear killed. Having two clears is better than one, because they can discuss things with each other rather than having pressure mount on a single person. So you just lynch the CC's now. Confirmed mafia's either going to try to confuse you (don't fall for it, you already know he's a liar!) or just stay quiet/irrelevant (it's like he's dead or something! just what we want).

Of course, there are always exceptions in mafia; you always should think things through. Here are some things to think about: Can the 2 clears clear the cop somehow (as PR)? Is one of your clears a bad player that might ruin your chances of winning? If the confirmed mafia is a really good player, would it be worth taking him out first?

AdrenalineMime

over 9 years

Nonon says

mafia can do that after you lynch him, so it's still irrelevant

blitz is more likely with 5 (one clear votes no one, force a tie) than 3 (it's gonna be 2way cross anyway). weird stuff happens when you have kicks. (em is so weird) again tho depends on who you're playing with

Calvin says

OP says

Having two clears is better than one, because they can discuss things with each other rather than having pressure mount on a single person.

In this scenario, the clears can just discuss things w/o having to vote between the cops and come to a conclusion, vote the confirmed mafia, and then go along w their decision the next day

this is valid, and potentially easier to coordinate than convincing town not to lynch confirmed

deletedover 9 years

OP says

Having two clears is better than one, because they can discuss things with each other rather than having pressure mount on a single person.

In this scenario, the clears can just discuss things w/o having to vote between the cops and come to a conclusion, vote the confirmed mafia, and then go along w their decision the next day

deletedover 9 years

mafia can do that after you lynch him, so it's still irrelevant

AdrenalineMime

over 9 years

It does allow them to blitz a lynch/NL, which is pretty dangerous

deletedover 9 years

ah ****, that confirmed mafia voted the clear, it's so disruptive, i'm going to have to follow him, because he disrupted me. dang, we lost

AdrenalineMime

over 9 years

It's a trade off. What's worth more, having another clear or dealing with a confirmed? That's up to you.

deletedover 9 years

you can't really disrupt votes as confirmed mafia. all you can do is make one vote and town has enough votes to overrule it

deletedover 9 years

^ on lylo/mylo especially

deletedover 9 years

Confirmed mafia tend to disrupt town and make it hard to read the game and often disrupts votes. It's usually better to just lynch the confirmed unless they self vote or no vote and just afk.