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Serious Thread (whoaaaa)

almost 9 years

With all the coverage on TV and online recently, I just wanted to ask you guys a question - would you date a transgender person? Reasoning is cool, saying yes or no is cool, just don't put any dumb in the comments

Yea or naw?

Yes

I'm not sure

Only if they were a perfect 10

Sonrio

almost 9 years

Peta says

unlike other preferences or deal breakers or w/e,

What are your turn offs peta

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Giga96 says

as a child who struggled with what was "right" and "wrong" to be attracted to, i can in fact confirm sexuality isn't really a "choice"

This is false seeing as you could choose not to be a product of your lust and work to better yourself.

Hibiki

almost 9 years

Sonrio says

i didnt choose to like goats, it just happened

underfail spotted

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Hibiki says

no, you still are IMHO. for that and many other reasons

Which is ironic seeing as how your actions on Rose are at the core of why I don't transexualism should be acknowledged.

I'm glad that someone that abused their mod powers to enforce Tumblrite values thinks I'm a vile human, means the world's working as intended.

Giga96

almost 9 years

If sexuality is a choice, then how come people are gay in countries where homosexuality = execution

Why would people choose to undergo public ridicule by coming out as gay when it was still a taboo thing in society that many people frowned upon and for which those who admitted to it were clearly mistreated

Peta

almost 9 years

Edark says

I can see the compairison which is why I totally wouldnt have a problem if they had surgery, but I still think having a pee pee isnt really comparable to having tattoos

Of course it's not comparable to tattoos in the general sense of "comparable," but it's technically comparable insofar as it falls within the same category. And I see no compelling argument that sexual orientation, unlike other preferences or deal breakers or w/e, must be uniquely fixed.

Like, in an informal discussion I'd have no problem saying I wouldn't date a trans person, but in the context of a serious discussion I think that claim reveals a pretty unhealthy collective mindset.

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weird how straighties don't wanna talk about sexuality being a nature over nurture thing until the topic of dating transgendered people comes up

Sonrio

almost 9 years

i didnt choose to like goats, it just happened

Escurai

almost 9 years

I thought slow was joking?

Sonrio

almost 9 years

hello hello hello how low

Giga96

almost 9 years

as a child who struggled with what was "right" and "wrong" to be attracted to, i can in fact confirm sexuality isn't really a "choice"

e: for me anyway, wouldn't want to overgeneralize--but as Peta said it's heavily moderated by genetics

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sexuality is a choice, in other news this still doesn't justify homophobia, transphobia, and rampant racism in the gay community

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Peta says

Slowbro says

all sexuality is a choice, next question

It's a false dichotomy; it's a choice heavily moderated by genetics.

i just argue that sexuality is a choice so people have nothing to hide behind

Giga96

almost 9 years

Peta says

Slowbro says

all sexuality is a choice, next question

It's a false dichotomy; it's a choice heavily moderated by genetics.

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Or misrepresenting my beliefs to said trans people to the point where they don't even want to speak to me, but yea 'sarcasm'.

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In this thread: people getting mad at who people are and are not attracted too.

Hibiki

almost 9 years

UniversalStudios says

Hibiki says

zovea, your sarcasm sensor's broken

There's no sarcastic why to tell someone that they're a vile human being for putting reality before their "gender identity".

no, you still are IMHO. for that and many other reasons

Edark

almost 9 years

Peta says

Edark says

Peta says

But I can't accept the idea that (a) there is not a single person of your gender whom you'd date and (b) it's actually impossible as a matter of theory for there to exist someone of your gender whom you'd date.

Why cant you accept these 2 ideas? Are you just making some sort of probability argument or are you arguing that heterosexuality is a choice?

I'm saying that gender is a glorified deal breaker. It's a big enough deal for people to use labels like gay/straight/bi/whatever, whereas we lack concise labels for "dater only of non-tattooed people" or "dater only of people with a college degree," but really the matter of whether or not you'd date someone of a certain gender falls under the same umbrella category as these things. And I probably can't prove it, but I think it's the human condition to discover and reserve exceptions, for oneself, to all deal breakers. I used to loathe tattoos because I was raised by WASP-y Americans. Then I met someone with tattoos and I realized that that's a ridiculous reason to rule out someone to whom you're really attracted. Obviously gender preference is a much bigger deal than tattoos, it's genetically ingrained, etc., but I don't see any reason to think it's set in stone. Heterosexuality isn't a choice, but it's also not an immutable law.

I can see the compairison which is why I totally wouldnt have a problem if they had surgery, but I still think having a pee pee isnt really comparable to having tattoos

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Hibiki says

zovea, your sarcasm sensor's broken

There's no sarcastic why to tell someone that they're a vile human being for putting reality before their "gender identity".

Peta

almost 9 years

Slowbro says

all sexuality is a choice, next question

It's a false dichotomy; it's a choice heavily moderated by genetics.

Uranus

almost 9 years

It's totally understandable that a person might have some subconscious aversion to dating a person that has some strong association to a gender they're not compatible with.

And like, yeah with enough effort you might overcome those schemas which prevent your attraction to a transgender person. But quite frankly it's not worth my effort to push someone through overcoming that.

UniversalStudios

almost 9 years

Devante says

i wouldn't date tumblr activists

If I get the chance to make it to one of their conventions I'm going with a tshirt launcher loaded with Bibles.

Hibiki

almost 9 years

zovea, your sarcasm sensor's broken

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all sexuality is a choice, next question

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Edark says

Hibiki says

"attraction is not a choice therefore no" is a bullshít answer considering the brain will never be hard wired to only ever find attraction to "Genuine" Femininity or Váginas

Is homosexuality a choice?

yes