xcom 2 probably wouldn't be worth the $60 if you didn't play the first one. go with 1

should i get xcom 2 for 60 or the first xcom for 30. is xcom 2 30 bucks better?

i've only been able to get a couple hours in but i think they did it well. it's just xcom 1 with better graphics and some annoying things fixed which is what i wanted

it feels like an fps now

it feels like a MOBA now

glad you agree with an objectively correct definition

I agree.

Thats not what RTS is. RTS is literaly a real time strategy, where you make/control your units, get this, IN REAL TIME.

Xcom is not an rts in any way, it's a turn based strategy.

turns out a 6.5 year old pc is barely good enough to run this

Yeh but none of that feels random or misplaced is what I was getting at.

Tucker says

It feels like a full RTS game now, I don't think much of it is random?

um well the games literally turn based strat, but i meant there was just so many new features added that were like "oh huh, thats cool i guess"

like the hacking, concealment, the new evac thing, toggle to turn on nationalies speaking their native tongue/etc

what is xcom

3 years and they still cant fix basic pathing problems

can't wait for the modders to go to work

It feels like a full RTS game now, I don't think much of it is random?

jesus, they added so much like random stuff lol

It's absolutely stellar.

nobody cares

IT'S LIVE.

30 MINUTES BOYS.

3 hours.

this actually reminded me to pre-order it because i forgot to.

have been playing darkest dungeon which i am adoring at the moment

It's great.

it's a snooze fest

Download just finished and I'm irritated because I can't click play for another 23 hours.

hardeffingworker says

what's in the preorder

The choice to have various environmental layouts on your missions, extra character customization, one (might be two) additional mission(s) along with special armor and weapons for every standard class + an extra class with upgradable weapons and armor.

And to top it off you get to pick one soldier from your XCOM: EU save, intact with all their gear and abilities.