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Shillary Clinton Vs Donald Chump

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Or glorious throwaway votes to third party?

This can be the year where we get enough votes for third parties to actually be heard in politics in future elections a small 5% helps them get funding and 15% gets them into the debates.

1/3 of the the Republican party wont back Trump

About 10% of democrats wont support Clinton

The general public have unfavorable views of both candidates, this is an election a good portion of people dont want. This is a great time to push for third parties.

Throw away votes or blind loyalist?
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Libetarians
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I don't really care if he is a strawman or not I just think this is funny

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Germatron says


Slowbro says

no, and you're probably a far more vile person if you are implying you believe that


if I knew someone who killed his wife or something grave, and I let him give me money for my silence. Am I not weak?


This is what you call a strawman argument, as is almost every argument you've ever made ever.
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Kylo says

Germatron has never been and will never be able to make any sort of argument that is not a straw man argument, in mafia, a debate, or otherwise.


argument: trump sexually assaulted his ex wife

retort: there is no proof of that

yep, strawman germatron here
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Slowbro says

"imo let's make an actual rapist one of the most politically significant figures in the country"


I like how you are going on about rapists, when Bill Clinton sexually assaulted multiple woman and Hillary helped covering it up. Makes it even funnier when shes made whole speeches talking about women needing to speak out.
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Kylo says

Germatron has never been and will never be able to make any sort of argument that is not a straw man argument, in mafia, a debate, or otherwise.


or ad hominem, although i have no idea if they're mutually exclusive or not. so i'm just gonna leave this thread...
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Goodbar says


Fam says


Goodbar says

it seems to me that inevitably things fall into a two party system and this is ok except that the current voting system makes it difficult (impossible?) for any alternative party to ever gain real traction even if it starts a strong movement. i read about instant runoff voting and it seemed like a cool alternative, and now i'm chuckling thinking about how bad that would make things for trump.


Peoples political ideology/philosophy dosent fall on a two point scale, I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal and I have to choose which I find more important. Libetarians may be a little extreme on the free market side but it's closer to my belief system then democrats or republicans.


I was not referring to peoples beliefs so much as how people end up voting


We end up voting this way because its the only way we can vote, there isn't enough representation of other stances
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look, the direction youre going, Im going to have a hard time arguing, because I think in large part youre right.

I think it's really awful that sexual assault is so hard to prove and therefore bad people are not being punished for their actions.

But Ive always held the belief that I would rather have 100 murderers go free, than imprison 1 innocent man. And I dont see myself waivering there.

Yes, a r.apist president is an awful prospect, but Im not going to condemn a man for something I know nothing about. not when there's thousands of other political issues with more concrete backing
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Germatron has never been and will never be able to make any sort of argument that is not a straw man argument, in mafia, a debate, or otherwise.
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Germatron says


Slowbro says


Germatron says


Slowbro says

no, and you're probably a far more vile person if you are implying you believe that


because I believe in the justice system? that innocent until proven guilty still holds true. Yes, Im a truly awful person


has the lowest conviction rate yet an anomalously small rate of false claims


anomaly compared to what? are people making false murder claims?


way to miss the point. you're being willfully obtuse.
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Slowbro says


Germatron says


Slowbro says

no, and you're probably a far more vile person if you are implying you believe that


because I believe in the justice system? that innocent until proven guilty still holds true. Yes, Im a truly awful person


has the lowest conviction rate yet an anomalously small rate of false claims


anomaly compared to what? are people making false murder claims?
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Germatron says


Slowbro says

no, and you're probably a far more vile person if you are implying you believe that


because I believe in the justice system? that innocent until proven guilty still holds true. Yes, Im a truly awful person


has the lowest conviction rate yet an anomalously small rate of false claims
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Little do you know Donald Trump is only running for president so he can put the GOP primaries next to The Apprentice and Wrestlemania on his TV resume before he is qualified enough to try out for The Real World on MTV.
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god forbid i care about giving a rapist national power lmao
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Slowbro says

no, and you're probably a far more vile person if you are implying you believe that


because I believe in the justice system? that innocent until proven guilty still holds true. Yes, Im a truly awful person
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Slowbro says

"i've done no research into the subject"

...

"what right do you have to come in here and bring it up"


no one else outside of you brings up him assaulting his ex wife. Im just confused what makes you different from them. do you have extra info or something?
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"if a woman does not report a man with a lot of money resources and intimidation tactics, he does not get to be called a rapist sorry that's how monopoly the board game works now it's weird"
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Kylo says

I think over the years I've smacked Germatron down so hard so many times that he just doesn't want to tumble anymore.


pls, half your arguments are Im a fry cook.

Here, Ill tumble. Im not a fry cook
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"i've done no research into the subject"

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"what right do you have to come in here and bring it up"
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youve brought up in multiple threads this alleged sexual assault.

Admittedly Ive done absolutely no research into the subject, but it seems to me that there's no proof of him doing anything. And Im not going to cry for his exwife being bullied by trump into hiding, because she seems to have chosen this path. So if the exwife chose to keep her alleged sexual assaulter from being labeled as such, what right do you have to come in here and bring it up?
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rutab says

I don't think politics is a good scale of who is or isn't a good person all the time


i think apologia is
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I don't think politics is a good scale of who is or isn't a good person all the time
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If it makes you feel better Germatron, I don't think you're an awful person. I just think you're an idiot.
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Germatron says

it's almost like I asked a question and never finished my point, but please jump to the conclusion, that you always do, that the only reason someone ever disagrees with something you say is because they're an awful person


then get to this grand ol' point you have brother
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it's almost like I asked a question and never finished my point, but please jump to the conclusion, that you always do, that the only reason someone ever disagrees with something you say is because they're an awful person