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is it viable

a lot of rightwingers have been arguing that freedom can't protect itself and place "security" above freedom. now the obvious problem with this is that when you argue against freedom to protect freedom, you're defeating your own argument. your argument really becomes "freedom is bad"

so im thinking how can you protect freedom since sacrificing freedom is not protecting it and all i can think of is diplomacy, especially since i doubt "terrorists" view themselves as anti-freedom. maybe some people do but most people aren't voluntary tools. so really, the only practical way i can see to protect liberty is through diplomacy, because by fighting fire with fire in this situation you effectively burn down your own side

but how do you negotiate peace between radically different ideologies especially when one violates human rights

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What's your opinion of Detroit?
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it doesnt do anything
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Hi cub, what's your opinion on fluoride?
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No, i'm Chaika.
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are you ok
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Are you ok?
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Chaika says

Greetings epicmafia community.


haha i get it because meetterry posts a lot of threads so any thread that isnt an opinion thread or some other circlejerk is a meetterry thread and he says greetings epicmafia community oh boy thats a good one im surprised i havent seen this posted a dozen times before
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mouth breather and lobotomized. real heated insults being tossed around in this volcano
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from the way you type i assume lobo stands for lobotomized
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Is this the thinly veiled racism thread? I got confused because Terry usually makes them. Don't take his thing.
Also, economic freedom isn't afforded to the immigrants or the poor. At least not to the same extent that the rest of the country has it, "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" is sounds good ideologically. However, class mobility and advancement opportunities have shrunk in the last 20 years.
I shouldn't take the bait, no point trying to debate a mouth breather.
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Greetings epicmafia community.
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"a lot of rightwingers have been arguing that freedom can't protect itself and place "security" above freedom. "

lol
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apparently we must answer questions according to very autistic structuring
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forum spam vio for on-topic actual content
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nobody's so very free really
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cub says


Pitch says

if you have a freedom others don't, and they can't really get into it, they'll hate you for it. it's either hate yourself or hate the other. the feeling has to go somewhere


the flaw in this logic is the implication that the west for example doesnt offer religious and personal freedom to everyone

how can you not have a freedom that you're given and therefor hate the people who give you that freedom


the freedom is economic freedom or freedom of lifestyle. it's a matter of inhibitions. muslims don't get strip clubs or prostitutes, so such things are of the devil
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Pitch says

if you have a freedom others don't, and they can't really get into it, they'll hate you for it. it's either hate yourself or hate the other. the feeling has to go somewhere


the flaw in this logic is the implication that the west for example doesnt offer religious and personal freedom to everyone

how can you not have a freedom that you're given and therefor hate the people who give you that freedom
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the op is practically a bump its a new thread
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stop bumping this thread
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i ain't gonna sculpt my posts past stream of conscious for u floor. i'm gonna post casual, sorry ur inhibitions don't allow u the same
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floor has nothing intelligent to say, and resents anyone that does: https://epicmafia.com/report/193919
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one thing i'll give islam is nobody should draw muhammad because that's r*tardedly antagonist. it's literally equivalent to picking on some outcast kid in ur school or something. dude is going to shoot up the school
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I don't like that it's assumed that peace = freedom. Having freedom is a rigorous bumpy road that will not always be a peaceful one.

As for peace itself, it's viable. The pursuit of peace should be one sought by all, but if there's "no possible peace between slavers and liberators" that just shows that hey, it takes time. It takes time for freedom and it takes time for peace, and if we can get both it should be our priority to sustain that status.