over 8 years

There are four real reasons why you voted for Hillary Clinton, no matter what excuse you create for why you did. Reason one is that you wanted a female president. Reason two is that you didn't want to be deported or see others deported. Reason three is that you passive aggressively want everyone around you to be miserable and would like to see all of America become Detroit. Reason four is that you believe everything the news tells you.

So to start off, watch fox news and switch over to watching abc news. When you get done listening to all the various stories about the election process, I want you to sit there for a second and think about what you just heard. Most news stations have their own opinions and most news stations that have the same opinion are actually owned by the Cox family or some other very rich person trying to promote their own agenda. This was the case for Hillary Clinton voters who watched the news and didn't understand that most facts about Trump weren't as solid as previously believed. The FBI literally broke into two because of this election, in case you didn't know, because people in the FBI found out that half the FBI was being bought and the chief of the FBI that was protecting Hillary, has his house raided by other FBI agents who then found CP on his computer. There was massive funding from the Saudi Arabian prince, George Soros, the Rothschild, the Cox family, the Warners, and other rich people, all to get Hillary as president. Look at what happened. Despite all those rich people who can easily buy you poor people, the people they made poor just for this purpose, forcing people to support Hillary, Donald Trump still won. This is proof that the electoral college is not a bad system, as you idiots were about to let yourself be slaves. If a republican gets voted president in the next election, this means that rich people will never be able to sway voters through covert means, ever again. Enjoy.

over 8 years
Remember when all of those Whigs threw away their votes and voted Lincoln into the presidency?
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Please understand why people vote third party through. They are not throwing their votes away
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Under 5% cost her the presidency mate they may have not voted without stein around anyways but kissing up to the far left can flip an election like this

Also these aren't my best replies, in mobile sorry
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If all Green Party voted hillary she'd be president. look at all the swing states
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If you haven't looked at any election results why are you posting here
over 8 years
under 5% come together with all the 3rd parties is not enough to make a change, sorry to break it down to y'all
over 8 years

Jimbei says

If the third parties become big enough, the two parties will have to incoperate their ideals or risk losing. That stops democrats from staying too center or republicans too right winged


I agree with what you're saying. But, I think you meant to say left of center when referreing to Democrats.
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If the third parties become big enough, the two parties will have to incoperate their ideals or risk losing. That stops democrats from staying too center or republicans too right winged
over 8 years
third parties will never work in this current voting system. here's why: http://www.cgpgrey.com/politics-in-the-animal-kingdom/
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can I just say that Johnson and Stein both tripled their amounts of votes since the last election

more people are aware about 3rd parties now. If Trump is unfavorable in 2020 and runs again people may vote Libertarian. It'll be quite a toss up, definitely if the Libertarians can produce a good candidate
over 8 years

SirAmelio says


cub says


SirAmelio says


Respect says

Can you make an edit to explain to me why I voted for Johnson? Pls and thk u


because you wanted to waste your vote but be able to feel like a pseudo-revolutionary and send a message that the two main candidates were bad even tho literally everyone knew that


or

some people who voted for johnson could have the foresight to realize that if johnson reached a certain percentage of the popular vote then the libertarian party could participate in the presidential debates next election cycle which puts a third party on the national stage which is the first step to creating a viable third party

it's not about winning the first election, it's about climbing the ladder for future elections


how did that work out


Honestly, I feel like it put currently elected officials on notice. They need people's votes for reelection. So, if they see that people are growing dissatisfied with the main parties, they'll actually take an interest in what people actually want vs relying on and sticking to the party line.
over 8 years

cub says


SirAmelio says


Respect says

Can you make an edit to explain to me why I voted for Johnson? Pls and thk u


because you wanted to waste your vote but be able to feel like a pseudo-revolutionary and send a message that the two main candidates were bad even tho literally everyone knew that


or

some people who voted for johnson could have the foresight to realize that if johnson reached a certain percentage of the popular vote then the libertarian party could participate in the presidential debates next election cycle which puts a third party on the national stage which is the first step to creating a viable third party

it's not about winning the first election, it's about climbing the ladder for future elections


how did that work out
over 8 years

Ohdearmycatisgone says


Respect says

Can you make an edit to explain to me why I voted for Johnson? Pls and thk u


So that you could tell everyone you voted for Johnson


Thanks! :3
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this thread
over 8 years

SirAmelio says


Respect says

Can you make an edit to explain to me why I voted for Johnson? Pls and thk u


because you wanted to waste your vote but be able to feel like a pseudo-revolutionary and send a message that the two main candidates were bad even tho literally everyone knew that


or

some people who voted for johnson could have the foresight to realize that if johnson reached a certain percentage of the popular vote then the libertarian party could participate in the presidential debates next election cycle which puts a third party on the national stage which is the first step to creating a viable third party

it's not about winning the first election, it's about climbing the ladder for future elections
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you really showed him
over 8 years
another lastprophet wall of text not read by me
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And to be fair Trump isn't my president. Obama is right now. I think the protests is precedent so if Trump does do anything extremely out of line all the people who protested will be able to say "I told you so, you should have listened", nothing more.
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It's almost like there is a humongous amount of democrats and not everyone is representative of each others views

I think it's more than obvious that there will always be backlash no matter who wins
over 8 years
Democrats before the election: omg how dare trump say he wont accept the results if he doesnt win

Democrats after the election: not my president!!!! *rallies and calls every trump supporter a bigot*
over 8 years
You guys realize a nice big wall will keep starving Mexicans from making us starve too right? Sounds like Trump cares about climate change if you ask me.
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Also Donald Trump has set a precedent that the things he did in his campaign were okay. While not all of it will apply to his presidency, the awful things he's said on twitter and on live television to people will still be awful yes but if it gets one person the presidency, why not someone else.

I'd go into rants of all the stuff going on but this is something that particularly bothers me. People will be "pulling a trump card" over the next few elections and say the most controversial opinions they can think of.
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All the coverage I have been able to see is about climate change and where it's going in the next 4 years, more then protests and talks of deportation
over 8 years

Ohdearmycatisgone says


OhLookACat says

Does being concerned about climate change count under reason 4


The President has little, if any, impact on this.


You keep telling me this and I really really want to believe it, but I just can't accept it as truth. :(

I'm aware that Trump can't enact his policies with a snap of his fingers, but the executive branch has influenced environmental and energy policy for quite some time now.

Between his climate skeptic/oil-friendly Cabinet picks, position to sign EPA funding cuts, potential to appoint justices willing to strike down regulations, and unwavering determination to reject the Paris Agreement, I'd say that Trump could have quite a bit more than a little impact on the environment.

Yeah, there's a lot more involved with how we handle our environment, including state governments, Congress, market forces, and us ordinary people. But I just can't see where you're coming from with this. Could you provide some information to back your statement up? It'd really help me sleep better at night. .-.
over 8 years

Respect says

Can you make an edit to explain to me why I voted for Johnson? Pls and thk u


because you wanted to waste your vote but be able to feel like a pseudo-revolutionary and send a message that the two main candidates were bad even tho literally everyone knew that