Sorry Arrogate hope you remember part of the only reason you’re alive is because I unvoted you and pointed out how you could use your power to confirm yourself tomorrow. There are several votes on you right now, best not poke the wrong bear. We’ve had this conversation before.

Spadez I voted you to prompt you to participate more. Me telling you to speak your truth wasn’t telling you to claim it was just me saying that I want you to out reads. You had one or two votes on you I don’t think it was necessary to hardclaim. I have told my truth from when I entered this game, I’ve been open about my reads. Still to this point I only have a tr on Pinks.

I’m still confused as to why you would use your track on Arrogate when they were meant to explode themselves though Spadez, but I don’t see why maf would claim that in the way you did. As for our stances in the game I do understand where you’re coming from but at the same time I did also come into the game after somewhat following the game from an outside perspective. Idk

We have three hours you hooligans.

Also, if Arrogate/Spadez0/goodfrog are all town, which to me, makes the most sense given the interaction of the abilities:

It's either Pinks/arachnid/ghost13 OR one or both of mw295/Lesbian are mafia.

I'm going to analyze the situation a little bit more to see what confidence I have that those 3 are town.

I want to emphasize that I am not pushing on you Pinks, I am giving you the opportunity to look at the situation with more clarity.

Let's try with goodfrog as mafia to play devil's advocate. If goodfrog is mafia, then he visited both me and denial n1. Since neither of us died, either he would be mafia with two visiting powers in addition to killing or either denial or me was attempted to be killed. Since the only method at this time that we know of preventing a kill would be iChaotic, either I was saved or denial was saved in this scenario. If denial was saved then I think iChaotic would have not tunneled him d3. So fine. Let's say goodfrog is mafia, and I was saved (I don't think this either). Then that means that Arrogate is also mafia since he said he can only role copy town. This scenario is incredibly far-fetched. In this scenario, I would have to be town.

This is why I say I don't think you've spent any time actually analyzing the situation you are trying to push on, which, to me, is scummy.

Okay, so the thing to me about your logic Pinks is that it's just not thought all the way through. I will go through what you've said while simultaneously walking through my own thoughts on the situation.

Pinks says

Well you could be mafia with Arrogate. So..

I dont trust you. Arrogate is mafia. 100%.

I'll go to my grave with this fos.

Pinks says

I think you're mafia regardless so it doesn't really phase me what your read on me is, but if you're gonna try and convince the others that you're town you better start making up your mind.

PS. You chose to bark up the wrong tree. My words and actions are not scummy. I'm consistent as .

Ok so this establishes that you think I'm mafia, you think Arrogate is mafia, and you think Spadez could be mafia. There's also a quote you have where you said if goodfrog and Arrogate are mafia then the vote block thing is made up.

Alright so let's do this. Since Spadez0 has correct information about me, I will start with her.

If Spadez0 is town, that means Arrogate told the truth about copying an ability AND knew what ability goodfrog had because he outed before goodfrog. So if Spadez is town, Arrogate is probably town. And if Arrogate is town, then goodfrog is town. Pinks you also confirmed goodfrog's visits and he also specifically went out of his way to make sure you had full information. So I don't see how you could fos goodfrog. Now let's say this is the scenario. In this case, I am only mafia if I don't have any visiting powers and didn't lead the kill.

Let's go in reverse, since goodfrog should be town from your pov. If goodfrog is town, then Arrogate could be lying about the role copy and instead stalked him. If Arrogate is lying about the role copy and instead stalked him, then Spadez is also lying about the role copy. So it could be both Spadez and Arrogate (which I really, really don't think it is). If it's Spadez and Arrogate, I guess you could put me in the mafia team here.

Motherfuk okay. Uh #1 that's wrong, I'm also not voting and arachnid unvoted.

Let me know if this in incorrect 4 hours to go

arachnid says

Sorry need to read I missed a lot until then unvote

yeah this is maf.. this was the attempt to seem towny, but she didn't follow through with it, my reads are messed up, elfen ISPed, arach is like not much better

vote Arachnid.

LesbianPirate says

in my mind, htennis was bad at faking town and you were just really good at it.

htennis was just garbage bc he didn't care about the game (I asked him outside of this why everyone thought "we" were mafia). I'm simply actually playing as I am, which is town.

Pinks says

Otherwise all you’re doing is muddying the chat. No offense.

i dont think him constantly pointing out suspicious things about you is muddying the chat at all. i've also found a couple of things suspicious that he has already stated. in my mind, htennis was bad at faking town and you were just really good at it.

Sounds to me like fencesitting. You keep saying I'm towny one second, and scummy the next. I think you're mafia regardless so it doesn't really phase me what your read on me is, but if you're gonna try and convince the others that you're town you better start making up your mind.

PS. You chose to bark up the wrong tree. My words and actions are not scummy. I'm consistent as .

If it were easy to make my mind up about anyone I would have voted by now. The concept of deciphering roles and alignments separately and not having definitions of roles that are certain alignments is foreign to me.

I think you’re scummy in your words and actions

shady says

Just as an aside, Pinks it really feels like you haven’t walked through your trains of thought to their logical conclusions , which is sketchy to me

You keep inferring a scumread on me. But being wishy washy about it. Can you make up your mind and vote me if you think I’m mafia? Otherwise all you’re doing is muddying the chat. No offense.

I am going to have to sit down and look this over in the morning. We don’t have much time

Just as an aside, Pinks it really feels like you haven’t walked through your trains of thought to their logical conclusions , which is sketchy to me

Sorry need to read I missed a lot until then unvote

Anyways i’m going through role types and trying to sorta guess how many town/maf should be in them
1. Investigative - all of these are powers confirmed by targets, we just don’t know side
x role cop (ToSRox) - on happeh
x delayed tracker (Pinks) - on goodfrog, ghost13, ?
- mimic/orcbomb (arrogate) - on goodfrog n3
- role tracker “hermit” (Spadez) - on denial, shady, arrogate

2. Protective
x doc (iChaotic) - dunno
- bodyguard (goodfrog) - on shady n1

3. Killing
x vig (happeh) - nothing

4. Vote Manipulation
x Double vote (happeh)
x Vote protect (ToSRox)
- Vote lock (ghost13) - 1/1 remaining
- Vote block (goodfrog) - nonconsec
[- Vote block (Arrogate) - nonconsec] copied from gf

Ghost13, Spadez0, if you're town, you'll vote Arrogate. That's it.

Anyway, I'm off to sleep as it's 2am and I need to wake up in the morning. You people don't seem like you're gonna let ghost do her thing anytime soon so adios.

Pinks says

When could you have gotten rid of me? You were never around, and as soon as I came into the game people started unvoting me because I outed my role and have been very candid.

My role is stupid af so there's that. Idk why we have a delayed tracker it's so f*cking stupid esp since that is my only role

Also we're not testing ghost's vote block. I dont need to test it and it proves nothing / wastes her role.

When tennis was still here, there were hefty votes on him. And I think I was still around then and could've hopped on the (not yet there) but somewhat bw.

Spadez0 says

Also you people are forgetting that I confirmed Arrogate copied, but not on who. For all I know she could've copied someone else tho idk how that works out.

I just realised my earlier assumption of gf and Arrogate of being a package deal relies on if Arrogate actually copied gf. Whew... the mechanical confusion.