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Rules - https://pastebin.com/G9d1ehn7

Setup Notes:

  • 72 hour days, 24 hour nights.

  • This setup is role madness; everyone will be a power role.

  • This game will be for 13 players; 10 will be town and 3 will be mafia.

  • I will be using Natural Action Resolution.

  • Day start duh

Any other questions please comment below.... Or if you are interested

I fugged up and forgot to add game mode

Spadez0 has replaced carmen give her a warm welcome

Arachnid replaced elfen, welcome arachnid :)

Lets give Pinks (replacing Htennis) a warm welcome

GAME LOG

Page 4 - GAME BEGINS

Page 19 - Day 1 Ends - No one was lynched

Page 19 - Day 2 Begins - No one has been killed

Page 71 - Day 2 Ends - Happeh was Lynched

Page 71 - Day 3 Begins - TownOfSalemRox has been killed

Page 79 - Day 3 Ends - Denial was Lynched

Page 79 - Day 4 Begins - IChaotic was killed

Page 98 - Day 4 Ends - No one was lynched

Page 98 - Day 5 Begins - Ghost13 was killed

Page 99 - Day 5 Ends - Arrogate was Lynched

Page 99 - Day 6 Begins - Lesbian Pirate was Killed

Page 107 - Day 6 ends - No one was lynched

Page 107 - Day 5 begins - Arachnid has fallen

Page 11 - Town Loses - they were in autoloss and knew they were in autoloss

Ghost13
over 6 years

Carmen says

So do we out our roles/actions now or only when it's relevant


curious about this too but if anyone's gonna claim hit bp or something that would be useful, right?
goodfrog
over 6 years

denial says

no. the fact that you think there is a mafia between me and happeh is not consistent with you having a HAMMER ON ONE OF US and choosing to hammer somebody you thought wasn't scummy

do you want me to keep bringing up that I gave you the opportunity to get him lynched if you were willing to hammer him or is that just gonna get swept away as "lol i didn't think i had enough time..."

why don't i just ask you one question:


were you okay with a NL or not


you giving me an opportunity is just you being afraid to hammer him when we had more time to make a decision.

i clarified that I was more satisfied with an NL than lynching happeh.
goodfrog
over 6 years
there's also your mysterious conflict with my reasoning on htennis' post quality. i'd like to know why you think he was a bad lynch.

his posts were so useless to me that i feel you'd have to know he was town in order to not lynch him.
denial
over 6 years
no. the fact that you think there is a mafia between me and happeh is not consistent with you having a HAMMER ON ONE OF US and choosing to hammer somebody you thought wasn't scummy

do you want me to keep bringing up that I gave you the opportunity to get him lynched if you were willing to hammer him or is that just gonna get swept away as "lol i didn't think i had enough time..."

why don't i just ask you one question:


were you okay with a NL or not
denial
over 6 years
what else is there to address other than ghost13

we have a confirmed role cop because the mod kinda slipped that it was a real pm

so now i have to think one of two things:

did ghost13 fake claim miller as mafia (they could've done it as town too)

or did she claim her real miller role, which has 0 utility if she was really mafia (if you wanna say that's a throw off, i guess that's fine too. but like i said i think the misdirection is more in terms of there being an alignment cop, which there probably is not)
goodfrog
over 6 years
are you just going to derail this into your other thoughts about me?

because the fact that i think there is a mafia in you and happeh is very consistent with me voting you and trying to get you to answer these questions.
denial
over 6 years

goodfrog says

there's a lot of splitting going on guys, i think we should consolidate here.

can everyone come together for a top 2 FoS?

personally i can get behind a lynch on TownOfSalemRox. i feel like the line about denial softing doc didn't develop into anything substantial.

EDIT (courtesy quote):

TownOfSalemRox says

...However, don't go onto denial, who hardcore softed a medic role. He should, however, proclaim who he's about to save every night if he's going to keep this up, as a soft of course.


all-in-all their play does not seem very linear.

for my second fos i would default to EIfen from a participation standpoint. i realize this isn't optimal, but they are absolutely the least transparent. i'd also note that this format is much more difficult to read in due to everyone's ability to take time/compose thoughts in conjunction with less post volume.

other observations: i'm sitting on potential split teams between denial/happeh (one maf) and ToS/Arrogate (one maf). i am less sure on denial/happeh, obviously, but i do vibe with the fact that happeh townread me for reaction testing and helping to generate content early on in the match.


nm, this was the post i was probably recalling from you

funny that you thought there was a maf between me and happeh though at some point, but were okay with lynching htennis after saying this quote:


>>>>i am at a crossroads in this lynch. i feel that there has been much less development on the happeh bw than there has on the htennis bw, yet i feel wary of the ToS/Arrogate interactions. i feel that lynching htennis has utility even if i don't particularly scumread him. i don't see a value in nling when we will probably be in a similar spot tomorrow.<<<<
goodfrog
over 6 years
i guess i misinterpreted that as you saying that i townread her when i shouldn't have.

i hope that you're going to address the rest of the post, too.
denial
over 6 years

denial says


goodfrog says


denial says

god, I knew half of you were going to be braindead when GOODFROG WAS GIVEN HAMMER ON HAPPEH AND HE REFUSED TO TAKE IT


i'm not hammering somebody i'm not convinced is maf and chancing myself at dying. i gave him the option to unvote and let me vote, and instead of YOU KNOW, actually unvoting and attempting that he says

"lol no no time for that"


i think it's pretty sus that you are vindicated by not lynching someone you don't scumread, but somehow i am not?

i also distinctly remember you saying that you would come back in time to hammer if necessary even though you didn't prefer that. what happened to that?


hey, I mean you've never said happeh was town to you, and I think I could probably quote you saying her actions were weird. you were the one that wanted to give her a chance to "say more things" and that "htennis should go because hes not gonna give us anything to work off even if we let him talk"

quite frankly at this point, i'm actually gonna go hard on my read and just say happeh is maf

I don't like double vote (INDEFINITE DOUBLE VOTE) with a vig shot. seems like a maf swing for balance

ghost13 is honestly probably town and I don't think we have an allignment cop. miller is probably a misdirection and maybe an open opportunity for maf to claim cop to try to avoid a lynch. could be wrong on this because she could've hammered EITHER of them and was viewing the topic...


its weird how I can just quote what I literally just said earlier in order to refute your post saying I said you townread her

in fact I literally said the complete opposite and said you didn't, which is why my whole point of why the fuk wouldn't you just hammer her when given the opportunity over a NL
shady
over 6 years
I’m not interested in lynching denial today at all @goodfrog
shady
over 6 years

denial says

oh, and shady

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_(role)

(specifically supersaint)
i'm not risking myself for somebody i wasnt even convinced is mafia

his reluctance to claim his role when he was about to be lynched alarmed my spidey senses


I guess this is fair, but you understand why it looked suspicious, right?
goodfrog
over 6 years
what's the post you're referring to about thinking happeh's actions are weird?

also, your entire argument is predicated on me townreading happeh, when i simply said that their content is likely to be more quality than htennis'. i think that her reputation is proof, and comparing posts from the two of them is also proof. i otherwise implore you to find a quality post from htennis and further explain why he is town.


you want to return to insisting that i had hammer, when given my position about never voting happeh. it's very similar to your position on never voting htennis in that spot, although you said you would hammer him if necessary. you still haven't addressed this.


denial says


ill come around closer to end of day and hammer it if necessary (although i really dont want to be the one to hammer it)





EDIT: Looks like this was your response:
"yeah, I did, then town presented me the opportunity to lynch happeh. you didn't bite, and I didn't feel like chancing dying based on the circumstances, which is why I tried to work out a way to make you hammer"



denial says

i'm not hammering sh!t, if you wanna be so obstinate on forcing a NL over htennis, then you can be the one to hammer him. but ghost13 is viewing the topic




you also have slid onto me somehow when ghost13 actually had hammer when browsing the topic, yet you think they are town? none of this adds up to me. vote denial
Carmen
over 6 years
So do we out our roles/actions now or only when it's relevant
denial
over 6 years

goodfrog says


denial says

god, I knew half of you were going to be braindead when GOODFROG WAS GIVEN HAMMER ON HAPPEH AND HE REFUSED TO TAKE IT


i'm not hammering somebody i'm not convinced is maf and chancing myself at dying. i gave him the option to unvote and let me vote, and instead of YOU KNOW, actually unvoting and attempting that he says

"lol no no time for that"


i think it's pretty sus that you are vindicated by not lynching someone you don't scumread, but somehow i am not?

i also distinctly remember you saying that you would come back in time to hammer if necessary even though you didn't prefer that. what happened to that?


yeah, I did, then town presented me the opportunity to lynch happeh. you didn't bite, and I didn't feel like chancing dying based on the circumstances, which is why I tried to work out a way to make you hammer
denial
over 6 years
that all being said, when happeh is eventually lynched and she flips mafia, i'm literally coming after everybody who voted htennis
denial
over 6 years

goodfrog says


denial says

god, I knew half of you were going to be braindead when GOODFROG WAS GIVEN HAMMER ON HAPPEH AND HE REFUSED TO TAKE IT


i'm not hammering somebody i'm not convinced is maf and chancing myself at dying. i gave him the option to unvote and let me vote, and instead of YOU KNOW, actually unvoting and attempting that he says

"lol no no time for that"


i think it's pretty sus that you are vindicated by not lynching someone you don't scumread, but somehow i am not?

i also distinctly remember you saying that you would come back in time to hammer if necessary even though you didn't prefer that. what happened to that?


hey, I mean you've never said happeh was town to you, and I think I could probably quote you saying her actions were weird. you were the one that wanted to give her a chance to "say more things" and that "htennis should go because hes not gonna give us anything to work off even if we let him talk"

quite frankly at this point, i'm actually gonna go hard on my read and just say happeh is maf

I don't like double vote (INDEFINITE DOUBLE VOTE) with a vig shot. seems like a maf swing for balance

ghost13 is honestly probably town and I don't think we have an allignment cop. miller is probably a misdirection and maybe an open opportunity for maf to claim cop to try to avoid a lynch. could be wrong on this because she could've hammered EITHER of them and was viewing the topic.



also, clearly my post comes for people coming at me for not hammering, when you literally had hammer

yet, here you are saying im on the list of scum choices for you, when you were on the opposite side of the fence and had a hammer you refused to use (lol).
goodfrog
over 6 years
Arrogate is lower on my list of choices than denial/Ghost13
LesbianPirate
over 6 years
what do we think about arrogate
goodfrog
over 6 years

denial says


goodfrog says


goodfrog says


...i feel that lynching htennis has utility even if i don't particularly scumread him...


even with happeh's quantity of posts, i would prefer to lynch htennis over her and give her the ability to contribute more if possible. i do not get the feeling that giving htennis the same opportunity could be as rewarding.


heres the explanation we get from goodfrog deciding not to lynch happeh, btw

pretty sure almost nobody had an issue with the quanitity of her posts, but more the quality of her posts and the fact that it doesnt look like she is trying to GAME SOLVE. she found a push, and decided to double down on it


this was stated from my point of view in terms of the issue with post quantity, and i followed it up by stating that i would prefer to allow her more time to participate. looks like that proved to be a good choice, too.
goodfrog
over 6 years

denial says

god, I knew half of you were going to be braindead when GOODFROG WAS GIVEN HAMMER ON HAPPEH AND HE REFUSED TO TAKE IT


i'm not hammering somebody i'm not convinced is maf and chancing myself at dying. i gave him the option to unvote and let me vote, and instead of YOU KNOW, actually unvoting and attempting that he says

"lol no no time for that"


i think it's pretty sus that you are vindicated by not lynching someone you don't scumread, but somehow i am not?

i also distinctly remember you saying that you would come back in time to hammer if necessary even though you didn't prefer that. what happened to that?
denial
over 6 years
also imo if you still have subs that are willing, I would start throwing them in

there are a few people im sure you know who im talking about that probably just need to be replaced at this point, but you can give them some time to participate in this day
denial
over 6 years
oh, and shady

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_(role)

(specifically supersaint)
i'm not risking myself for somebody i wasnt even convinced is mafia

his reluctance to claim his role when he was about to be lynched alarmed my spidey senses
shady
over 6 years
I’m ready to fight someone rn!!!
LesbianPirate
over 6 years
shady and denial i'd love to hear more foses you have, besides me of course
shady
over 6 years
Ok I’ll chill a bit. I thought you were implying goodfrog was mafia for not hammering Happeh, who I also jumped to conclusion was town.