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US Foreign Policy

over 8 years

greetings epicmafia community,

i think we need a good discussion on US foreign policy

every now and then (actually often), bernie-supporting basement-dwellers always start saying how the US is a war-mongering nation.

especially now, as the US has increased its presence in eastern europe unprecedented since the cold war.

what is everyone's thoughts?

Current Topic:

Russian belligerence:

Annexation of Crimea
Shifting Georgian border lines
Giving away of Russian military gear (eg. Malaysia Airlines crash)

United States

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deletedover 8 years

just take a few looks at human nature and see how utterly detestable people can be towards each other and i think ull see that humanity as a whole needs to be culled

im all for nuclear warfare

Bebop

over 8 years

Jimbei says

Bebop says

Based Putin did nothing wrong

Bebop says

Remember the last time global powers didn't stop a country from rapidly militarising and breaking established rules between them? Me too.

Pick a side normie

tu quoque

You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.

Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

Example: Nicole identified that Hannah had committed a logical fallacy, but instead of addressing the substance of her claim, Hannah accused Nicole of committing a fallacy earlier on in the conversation.

MeetTerry

over 8 years

Jimbei says

I'm not patriotic.

I'm not up to date with eastern europe news but I'm saying the US needs to think critically on how to go about things and not repeat history.

90% of the US was against sending forces to Europe it was being ravaged by Hitler.

jimbei please tell me if you think we should let russia just annex more lands they think were originally "russian"

deletedover 8 years

Leave the Middle East alone, arming Syrian rebels is high risk but possibly low rewards.

Focus on competing with China.
Focus on cyber security.
Focus on long term relations with Russia, not military disputes but not shying from condemning them either.
Legalize marijiuana.

deletedover 8 years

Bebop says

Based Putin did nothing wrong

Bebop says

Remember the last time global powers didn't stop a country from rapidly militarising and breaking established rules between them? Me too.

Pick a side normie

Bebop

over 8 years

Jimbei says

I'm not patriotic.

I'm not up to date with eastern europe news but I'm saying the US needs to think critically on how to go about things and not repeat history.

Remember the last time global powers didn't stop a country from rapidly militarising and breaking established rules between them? Me too.

deletedover 8 years

i myself subscribe to the xxerox method of forum engagements. if thigns dont go my way i thraeten to beat myselkf senseless with everyday household objects

deletedover 8 years

I'm not patriotic.

I'm not up to date with eastern europe news but I'm saying the US needs to think critically on how to go about things and not repeat history.

deletedover 8 years

oh cmon golbolco i was just teasing u, u dont need to delete ur post...

MeetTerry

over 8 years

Jimbei says

The US has committed war crimes in the past and often times have failed at diplomacy.

It's not wrong for us to desire a nation without unnecessary warfare.

what i've noticed from you is that you consistently have a dismissive attitude toward the US

yea warfare sucks but when belligerent nations like russia or china start taking lands for themselves, it must be stopped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-cUr2MYbh8

deletedover 8 years

i feel like golbolco's whole plan for arguing is to just throw as many words as he can at u in the hopes that u dont read it and give up

Bebop

over 8 years

I know that's not what you said but that's what you sound like.

deletedover 8 years

"That's not what I said"

Bebop

over 8 years

Jimbei says

The US has committed war crimes in the past and often times have failed at diplomacy.

It's not wrong for us to desire a nation without unnecessary warfare.

"We made some mistakes in the past so we better just let other warmongering countries do what they want to say sorry"

deletedover 8 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Not using this as a source, but a reference

deletedover 8 years

The US has committed war crimes in the past and often times have failed at diplomacy.

It's not wrong for us to desire a nation without unnecessary warfare.

Bebop

over 8 years

Based Putin did nothing wrong, US foreign policy doesn't matter because Shillary will rig the election then it's FEMA camps and a nuclear holocaust for us all.

MeetTerry

over 8 years

russia's annexation of crimea and its consistent belligerence toward former soviet satellite states must be met sternly

many americans' desires for complacency and isolationism are naïve and ignorant