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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

deletedabout 7 years

There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

deletedabout 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Jeff says

Would you shoot at a school where people who are Recidivism or Jeff are in it?


Who else is present?


me, it's the university of thread derailing
deletedabout 7 years

yeasayer says

it's sad that this is the most active thread the forum has seen in months.


good evening, my guy
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

Jeff says

Would you shoot at a school where people who are Recidivism or Jeff are in it?


Who else is present?
deletedabout 7 years
this is literally outshining the thot thread.
deletedabout 7 years
it's sad that this is the most active thread the forum has seen in months.
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?


What I have done is say something that is not even considered possible to the FBI.

What you have done is concrete.


The FBI is very concerned with stopping mass shooters, who often make insane threats like these on the internet before they commit mass shootings. They'll definitely be VERY interested in you from this point forward :)


I would not shoot people who have done nothing to me. I have not implied I would in this entire thread.


Agent Ramirez seems to think what you've said here is VERY wrong, and he wants to see you immediately. So maybe you're wrong, and what you did here was illegal


He is wrong and I will happily talk to him about the law and application of it and explain how the only one who has displayed psychopathic behavior here is you and Jeff.
deletedabout 7 years
UnknownGangster: your honor, i tried to make a thread about the optimal play of a pointfarm setup and they LITERALLY derailed it to mock my status as a hall monitor.

judge: well i don't think that warrants threatening to- WAIT, did you say hall monitor? case closed, we can't convict this man.
Jeff
about 7 years
Would you shoot at a school where people who are Recidivism or Jeff are in it?
deletedabout 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

You think I'm joking but I have Agent Ramirez on the phone right now and he is indeed VERY interested in you UnknownGangster, he says he is going to look up your IP address now and send two agents down to speak with you first thing in the morning.


Okay, I will be happy to speak to them.


I'm glad you're glad. He thinks you could be a national security threat and should be held in an institution for observation no matter what you have to say. Enjoy! Hope you are happy with your decisions tonight!
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

a dude just did an ama on reddit the other day about how he spent a few years in prison because he threatened to shoot a school that was literally across the country from where he lived and he had no real intentions of going there to shoot the school up.

i guess he wasn't a hall monitor...


I never said I would do such a thing.


i love how hard you're backtracking and pretending you never said any of that batsh/it stuff now that sonse shitposted about calling the fbi


I said it all. What I didn't say is I'd shoot a school where people who are not Recidivism or Jeff are in it.
Jeff
about 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

You think I'm joking but I have Agent Ramirez on the phone right now and he is indeed VERY interested in you UnknownGangster, he says he is going to look up your IP address now and send two agents down to speak with you first thing in the morning.


Okay, I will be happy to speak to them.


Can you give us a brief rundown of what you will be saying to them about us E-Criminals?
deletedabout 7 years

Jeff says

Agent Ramirez? Sh'it Sons, send him to MY house to inspect ME.


https://www.walmart.com/browse/food/water/976759_976782_1001659
deletedabout 7 years

UnknownGangster says


lacey says

a dude just did an ama on reddit the other day about how he spent a few years in prison because he threatened to shoot a school that was literally across the country from where he lived and he had no real intentions of going there to shoot the school up.

i guess he wasn't a hall monitor...


I never said I would do such a thing.


i love how hard you're backtracking and pretending you never said any of that batsh/it stuff now that sonse shitposted about calling the fbi
deletedabout 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?


What I have done is say something that is not even considered possible to the FBI.

What you have done is concrete.


The FBI is very concerned with stopping mass shooters, who often make insane threats like these on the internet before they commit mass shootings. They'll definitely be VERY interested in you from this point forward :)


I would not shoot people who have done nothing to me. I have not implied I would in this entire thread.


Agent Ramirez seems to think what you've said here is VERY wrong, and he wants to see you immediately. So maybe you're wrong, and what you did here was illegal
Jeff
about 7 years
Agent Ramirez? Sh'it Sons, send him to MY house to inspect ME.
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

Recidivism says

You think I'm joking but I have Agent Ramirez on the phone right now and he is indeed VERY interested in you UnknownGangster, he says he is going to look up your IP address now and send two agents down to speak with you first thing in the morning.


Okay, I will be happy to speak to them.
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

lacey says

a dude just did an ama on reddit the other day about how he spent a few years in prison because he threatened to shoot a school that was literally across the country from where he lived and he had no real intentions of going there to shoot the school up.

i guess he wasn't a hall monitor...


I never said I would do such a thing.
deletedabout 7 years
You think I'm joking but I have Agent Ramirez on the phone right now and he is indeed VERY interested in you UnknownGangster, he says he is going to look up your IP address now and send two agents down to speak with you first thing in the morning.
Jeff
about 7 years
i woke up my roommate on the other side of the apartment by how hard i laughed at someone legitimately saying that death threats are warranted if they derail your internet thread
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?


What I have done is say something that is not even considered possible to the FBI.

What you have done is concrete.


The FBI is very concerned with stopping mass shooters, who often make insane threats like these on the internet before they commit mass shootings. They'll definitely be VERY interested in you from this point forward :)


I would not shoot people who have done nothing to me. I have not implied I would in this entire thread.
deletedabout 7 years
a dude just did an ama on reddit the other day about how he spent a few years in prison because he threatened to shoot a school that was literally across the country from where he lived and he had no real intentions of going there to shoot the school up.

i guess he wasn't a hall monitor...
deletedabout 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?


What I have done is say something that is not even considered possible to the FBI.

What you have done is concrete.


The FBI is very concerned with stopping mass shooters, who often make insane threats like these on the internet before they commit mass shootings. They'll definitely be VERY interested in you from this point forward :)
UnknownGangster
about 7 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


i don't think there's a single situation on the planet in which the fbi would think death and torture threats are warranted. maybe the rules are different for the highly esteemed hall monitors.


I never said I myself would do the torture or killing.


google charles manson, my guy


He is not me.
Jeff
about 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


"The FBI will not care about my death threats once they realize how hard you derailed my Epicmafia.com thread."
deletedabout 7 years
F*CK GUYS.

I forgot.

He's a Hall Monitor.

There's probably like a Police Brotherhood thing that makes him immune to the law.