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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

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Jeff, Recidivism, and Lacey:

You should be DISGUSTED by your actions. The fact that someone can just be making a thread about game theory on a fu'cking gaming website and get attacked like this is revolting. You truly are the vile scumbags he accuses you of being. Sick fuc.kers.
almost 7 years

lacey says

"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"


I didnt say the first few words he said them.
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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here


Go ahead and try to commit me. I will be set free in no time and you will see my wrath as I am released.


I have a feeling you'll get yourself committed, I just hope it's not too late by then!


Trust me, I won't. You will come to see just how wrong you are about everything in due time but mercy as you beg for it will not come.


If anyone showed this thread to your parents, you'd never see the outside of a sponge room
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

you know Ed Kemper turned himself into the cops and his IQ was like 165, maybe you can prove you are smart by doing that


I don't care if you are smarter than me or not, you will beg for mercy either way when the punishment comes your way.
deletedalmost 7 years
"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"
deletedalmost 7 years
you know Ed Kemper turned himself into the cops and his IQ was like 165, maybe you can prove you are smart by doing that
almost 7 years

lacey says

if u say so buddy, i'm js that i put 2 + 2 together and saw your bizarrely targeted comments toward jeff and now you randomly insisting you hate me


Jeff is a completely vile being but as you can see I said 'not because you're gay' in the reply to his gay comment with the grandma.
almost 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here


Go ahead and try to commit me. I will be set free in no time and you will see my wrath as I am released.


I have a feeling you'll get yourself committed, I just hope it's not too late by then!


Trust me, I won't. You will come to see just how wrong you are about everything in due time but mercy as you beg for it will not come.
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if u say so buddy, i'm js that i put 2 + 2 together and saw your bizarrely targeted comments toward jeff and now you randomly insisting you hate me
deletedalmost 7 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

all i want for christmas is an explanation for why ug has threatened the lives/physical appearances of sonse and jeff but he tried to play therapist to me and work out my daddy issues over pm.

i'm a lesbian if it helps take any of the edge off of you desperately trying to get me to see that i should cyber with a nice guy like you, ug.


You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.

You choose to be a vile one and laugh along with other more aggressive vile ones. This is why I hate you, not because you are lesbian.


you didn't say you hated me until i outed my sexuality, you spent several pms telling me you pitied me and that i need help and that my child self is weeping somewhere


He literally thought he was gonna monitor your halls lol
almost 7 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

all i want for christmas is an explanation for why ug has threatened the lives/physical appearances of sonse and jeff but he tried to play therapist to me and work out my daddy issues over pm.

i'm a lesbian if it helps take any of the edge off of you desperately trying to get me to see that i should cyber with a nice guy like you, ug.


You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.

You choose to be a vile one and laugh along with other more aggressive vile ones. This is why I hate you, not because you are lesbian.


you didn't say you hated me until i outed my sexuality, you spent several pms telling me you pitied me and that i need help and that my child self is weeping somewhere


Oh I hated you but I can want to help someone I hate.
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Jeff says


UnknownGangster says

You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.



Wrong


honestly my favorite comment on this website
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UnknownGangster says


lacey says

all i want for christmas is an explanation for why ug has threatened the lives/physical appearances of sonse and jeff but he tried to play therapist to me and work out my daddy issues over pm.

i'm a lesbian if it helps take any of the edge off of you desperately trying to get me to see that i should cyber with a nice guy like you, ug.


You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.

You choose to be a vile one and laugh along with other more aggressive vile ones. This is why I hate you, not because you are lesbian.


you didn't say you hated me until i outed my sexuality, you spent several pms telling me you pitied me and that i need help and that my child self is weeping somewhere
deletedalmost 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here


Go ahead and try to commit me. I will be set free in no time and you will see my wrath as I am released.


I have a feeling you'll get yourself committed, I just hope it's not too late by then!
almost 7 years

UnknownGangster says

You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.



Wrong
almost 7 years

Jeff says

You derail my thread on EpicMafia about Reverse Maf theory? Yeah, you deserve death.


Yes you do, but a very very slow one.
almost 7 years

lacey says

all i want for christmas is an explanation for why ug has threatened the lives/physical appearances of sonse and jeff but he tried to play therapist to me and work out my daddy issues over pm.

i'm a lesbian if it helps take any of the edge off of you desperately trying to get me to see that i should cyber with a nice guy like you, ug.


You can be a very good human being and lesbian all at once.

You choose to be a vile one and laugh along with other more aggressive vile ones. This is why I hate you, not because you are lesbian.
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what the f'uck happend here
almost 7 years
You derail my thread on EpicMafia about Reverse Maf theory? Yeah, you deserve death.
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here


Go ahead and try to commit me. I will be set free in no time and you will see my wrath as I am released.
deletedalmost 7 years
all i want for christmas is an explanation for why ug has threatened the lives/physical appearances of sonse and jeff but he tried to play therapist to me and work out my daddy issues over pm.

i'm a lesbian if it helps take any of the edge off of you desperately trying to get me to see that i should cyber with a nice guy like you, ug.
almost 7 years

Jeff says

The best part of all of this is that the one who is gonna walk away with a harassment vio is UnknownGangster.


You all have derailed my thread and deserve nothing short of bone breaking.
deletedalmost 7 years
This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here
almost 7 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

https://epicmafia.com/report/236300

let's just all have a laugh together that he filed this for sonse sIut shaming me and saying char would spank him but saying he hopes jeff gets beat to death is acceptable


Not to death. I hope he lives through the entire thing and ends up deformed from it.


the fact that you don't even see that this is actually worse is legitimately insane


If you have an issue, get out of my thread and stop derailing it like you and them have the past 20 something pages.
almost 7 years
The best part of all of this is that the one who is gonna walk away with a harassment vio is UnknownGangster.