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Round 1 - EM Debate

about 8 years

Welcome to Epicmafia's First Debate Competition!

Your wonderful judges for this competition will be Mindful, Denial, and Jeff.

There will be 7 questions over the course of the competition, but not every team will make it to answer all 7!


Here's how it will work:

The first 3 rounds will essentially be a free for all mass debate chaos. Teams will be given a timeline of when their cases are to submitted to a judge, when the cases will be posted in the round thread, and how long they will have to debate within the thread. Once all cases have been submitted, myself, Denial, and Mindful will post the cases in the thread and give everyone an hour before the thread will be unlocked. Once the thread is unlocked it will be your job for the next 24 hours to comment on the other cases. You can use this time to attack other cases, point out flaws in them, defend your own case from other's attacks, and overall just debate the topic. After 24 hours, the thread will be locked and you will all be given 2 rest days before another question will be given. During these rest days the 3 judges will read the thread and assign every team a score of 1-10 based off how well their case was, how well they defended it, and how well they attacked the opposing stance.

This will happen for 3 rounds.


After 3 rounds, every team will be given a ranking. Teams will be ranked 1-10. The top 6 teams automatically move on to the final 8 and the other 4 teams will face off in a 1 vs 1 PLAY IN battle (7th vs 10th, 8th vs 9th) to see which two also will advance to the final 8.

Once the final 8 is reached, teams will be placed in a bracket and face off in a knock out style 1 vs 1 battle (1 vs Lower Ranked Play-in advancer, 2 vs Higher Ranked Play-in advancer, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5)

One team will emerge victorious from the bracket and be named Epicmafia's Greatest Debate Team!


http://pastebin.com/SCFgmCpg Rutab & xJuicy

http://pastebin.com/812SHLbC Tatami and Sincerely

http://pastebin.com/ibsV9Hkc Poser and Tartosis

http://pastebin.com/sjTU6sJt Stiffy&schutz

http://pastebin.com/VXED8hDe Arcbel and thecolonel

http://pastebin.com/jsJzvasJ Pamda and Xero

http://pastebin.com/EJM4yyc1 Blister and SweetnKind

http://pastebin.com/gKmvDkHN Bebop and Ponylove

http://pastebin.com/Q9gS842E Jack and Sims

3 TEAMS STILL HAVEN'T TURNED IN AND THEY WILL BE KEPT MUTED UNTIL THEY SUBMIT A SUBMISSION

about 8 years
You fell for the trap!!!!!! Now you have to ban yourself because you have account connections to a banned user

We beat Arcbell's team by default
about 8 years
ITT nobody provides a solid argument as to why vilden should be unbanned.
about 8 years
Good guy Vilden. He didn't even unban himself from my mod account while he had the chance. Yet another solid reason he deserves our trust and an unban.
about 8 years

Rutab says

hey vilden how are u doing bro

i actually don't have a solid opinion of u being unbanned or not but i want to win this debate so u should stay banned so i can win


Okay as long as you never forget that Jeffreyaaron is a [edited out by arcbell] that's kind of like the core tenant of my teachings here on the site and I really don't want the message to be lost in this argument.
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Arcbell says

Hey guys more Vilden here.

xJuicy and Sweetandkind are so far up [phrase edited out by arcbell] they should probably just [

whole really long and detailed section edited out by arcbell

] while they wait for the short bus.


Klansman Vilden trying to spray his verbal spunk all over another minority group. Typical.

First it was the gays(Jeff & Dyl), then the blacks, and now hes coming for ret.arded people. Where will it end? HOw long will it be until Vilden sticks Arcbell the Ginger's heads under his guillotine?
about 8 years
hey vilden how are u doing bro

i actually don't have a solid opinion of u being unbanned or not but i want to win this debate so u should stay banned so i can win
about 8 years
Hey guys more Vilden here.

xJuicy and Sweetandkind are so far up [phrase edited out by arcbell] they should probably just [

whole really long and detailed section edited out by arcbell

] while they wait for the short bus.
about 8 years
@thecolonel - actually, not everyone does bypass. I'm aware of at least one user who's ban recently now expired and they never bypassed at any point.

"it's one of those rules nobody cares about".. Well, no surprise that someone who has no respect for the rules would advocate the unbanning of another user who shares the same opinion. Let's just unban everyone that thinks rules should be ignored! You may use your pathetic 'online environment' argument again, but it is void. This website needs revenue. Revenue is not generated when you have an openly toxic community where there are no repercussions for unnacceptable behaviour. This site is privately owned and is not a platform of free speech. In registering and using this website you agree to abide by the rules.

It's well known that abc threw games for vilden to trophy. Perhaps you should read up on your defendant's history before making a fool of yourself even more.
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sweetnkind says


Rare picture of vilden finally resurfaced. Arcbell & others supporting his heinous actions, you sicken me



Arcbell says

Hey this is Vilden posting from Arcbell's account.
you can go [edited out by arcbell] a [edited out by arcbell] in your [edited out by arcbell].


And the facts keep piling up.
about 8 years
Unban this man.
about 8 years
Hey this is Vilden posting from Arcbell's account.

All you [edited out by arcbell]s can [edited out by arcbell] my [edited out by arcbell] you're all a bunch of [edited out by arcbell] [edited out by arcbell] and after you're done [edited out by arcbell] my [edited out by arcbell] you can go [edited out by arcbell] a [edited out by arcbell] in your [edited out by arcbell].
about 8 years

xJuicy says

Reminder that three teams of people given 24hrs each couldn't think of a legitimate reason for vilden to be unbanned and have resorted to trolling from the beginning.

@thecolonel - just because vilden has active bypassing accounts does not mean he's unbanned. This is more reinforcement for him to remain banned, seeing as he cannot abide by simple rules. If he was finding cheaters and honestly trying to help the site, why is he bypassing? You can't pretend to be upholding the rules in one instance whilst completely disregarding them in another.

I'm not really surprised the likes of Arcbell and Poser are completely willing to unban someone who cheated with abc to trophy.


Everyone bypasses. It's one of those rules people (except tryhards like you and Rutab) don't care about. I just checked and he hasn't been reported on any of his bypassing accounts. Who is he hurting by doing it? Even disrespecting the can't-call-Jeff-gay rule was an act of civil disobedience.

When did vilden cheat for a trophy?

Please stop name-calling. Saying I'm a troll and referencing Arcbell's promiscuity is unwarranted.
about 8 years
Incorrect. At no point have we stated "catfishing is wrong and therefore vilden should be banned". The only reason we consider it to be an issue is in conjunction with the other points already raised: hateful comments, harassment, bigotry, discrimination etc. It testifies as to his true character.
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Rare picture of vilden finally resurfaced. Arcbell & others supporting his heinous actions, you sicken me
about 8 years

xJuicy says

Did you actually read our argument? Not once did we state vilden, or anyone, should be banned for catfishing, but rather it was a testament to his deceiving and shady character.



cow says

I am not arguing that he was banned for catfishing. I am using it as support for my other main points.



me says

Anyway, catfishing is not related to the actions he was banned for so it's not a good support for the main points discussed here.


The point is that we're discussing vilden being unbanned. You're using something that has weak ties to the reason of why he was banned, and also is unregulated by the rules.
about 8 years
Slander rather than retort with an actual argument, makes my life easy.
about 8 years
Rutab and xJuicy are clearly prejudiced against people who choose to engage in harmless cat-fishing online.
about 8 years

Arcbell says


Rutab says

I am not arguing that he was banned for catfishing. I am using it as support for my other main points.


That's like saying you don't wanna fire someone for getting a tattoo, but you're using it to support firing them for something else.


That's completely incorrect and a terrible example, but I can see why someone in your position would think along that line.
about 8 years

Rutab says

I am not arguing that he was banned for catfishing. I am using it as support for my other main points.


That's like saying you don't wanna fire someone for getting a tattoo, but you're using it to support firing them for something else.
about 8 years

schutzekatze says

I think cats are more informed on the subject of catfishing than cows.

Anyway, catfishing is not related to the actions he was banned for so it's not a good support for the main points discussed here.


Did you actually read our argument? Not once did we state vilden, or anyone, should be banned for catfishing, but rather it was a testament to his deceiving and shady character.
about 8 years
Reminder that three teams of people given 24hrs each couldn't think of a legitimate reason for vilden to be unbanned and have resorted to trolling from the beginning.

@thecolonel - just because vilden has active bypassing accounts does not mean he's unbanned. This is more reinforcement for him to remain banned, seeing as he cannot abide by simple rules. If he was finding cheaters and honestly trying to help the site, why is he bypassing? You can't pretend to be upholding the rules in one instance whilst completely disregarding them in another.

I'm not really surprised the likes of Arcbell and Poser are completely willing to unban someone who cheated with abc to trophy.
about 8 years
I think cats are more informed on the subject of catfishing than cows.

Anyway, catfishing is not related to the actions he was banned for so it's not a good support for the main points discussed here.
about 8 years
I am not arguing that he was banned for catfishing. I am using it as support for my other main points.
about 8 years
And there's 8 of them, so it was a general consensus and not the opinion of an individual cat.
about 8 years
I've asked my cats, they agree with my points, btw.