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Hello people of Sandbox and the spectators from Main.

In this thread we will debate whether or not Sandbox reports should be handled by site mods once again or if bebop and his mod team should have full control over Sandbox reports and Sandbox rules.

Should Sandbox return?
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I do not care
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No. bebop and his mods are doing just fine.
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Yes. It is clear that SandExit is not working.
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fnoof says

different mods have different perspectives. that's why there are several of them. that's why the appeal system exists.

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different mods have different perspectives. that's why there are several of them. that's why the appeal system exists.
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it's getting really old. it's getting really boring. it's categorically the most inimical sideshow to have to deal with and detracts from the legitimacy of every single complaint.
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we collectively need to quit ascribing a high school/us vs. them attitude towards absolutely every grievance
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Ohdearmycatisgone says

It doesn't. Just the opinions of many are written off because unpopular people are spoken down to whenever they speak up.


lol
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It doesn't. Just the opinions of many are written off because unpopular people are spoken down to whenever they speak up.
over 8 years
why must sandbox always act like a bunch of kids?
over 8 years
i think sandbox moderation needs to be stricter
over 8 years
as a former sandbox mod i think you have to realize that every single user who posts in sandbox is scum. theres a lot of anonymity in epicmafia and that makes every single user feel like they can and should be able to post whatever filth they can think of. as long as our mods have some semblance of standard on HC and IC then i don't care what happens.

the things i remember caring about as a mod were site mods going around and unbanning people who had clearly used HC with intent to make others upset. so, if thats why people want sitemods to get back into the sandbox mix then they can log off.

most of the people i see complaining about harsh moderation from the current crew are people i would kept banned as long as possible. you all have access to the internet and you all should have some iota of social responsibility (although most of you dont).

anyway just came back to post my 95 theses
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Personally, I do find sandbox mods necessary and I see why sandbox should be handled separately. However I do not see how you could reasonably deny that there are many issues with the consistency of how things are handled.
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Bebop says

????????? you're allowed to say anything in the right context or would you rather we go back to policing words and punishing people the instant they say something deemed wrong



Bebop says

the operative words there are "severe" and "excessive" which it was neither of. I get that you don't like the way the rules are in regards to that but please don't go blaming me for enforcing the rules correctly



Please explain this further because where you left it implies that as long as someone doesn't express dislike in being called a f4##0t then it can't be punished. But if you have to express dislike in being called this then wouldn't the HC rule be equivalent to the harassment rule?

Bebop says

"""Thank you for a informed reply"""


You can make this joke once your "top mod" can answer a simple questioning of his choices as a moderator without immediately lashing out, acting as if he's being attacked, and insulting the entire community.

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error says

i don't know about all that. if you drop a hard r i'm not going to treat you with any leniency. and neither will site mods, generally.



error says

weird! in the reality i recall experiencing, nothing was ever really handled in the capacity of "zero tolerance" to begin with





Bebop says

well i mean you've already been praising or complaining about how HC is moderated differently (dependent upon who you're talking to) so there's that. ic is moderated less harshly. also punishments aren't usually as strict as violations would dictate, we usually settle for chatbans rather than permanent stains on your account that last months.



The HC rule has changed many times in the past few months and even after reading through this thread it hasn't been clearly stated what it is. Bebop is saying you can say anything in the right context, SirAmelio is saying the n word with a -er is ban worthy, and error is saying he gives no tolerance on it regardless. If you are looking for inconsistencies in your mod team, read how each of them have a different stance on this thread.
As for IC, why would this being modded more harshly be a bad thing? The only people I can think of immediately that this would effect are Sishen, Chaika, and Furry and people complain about what they post all the time.
over 8 years
you also said it doesnt qualify as harassment but still brought it up in our conversation
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im trigger by word on interne
over 8 years
I never denied that there was a negative connotation for the words, what I said was that it doesn't qualify for HC. Go talk to a different mod if you think I'm being unreasonable, but I guarantee they'll say the same thing.
over 8 years
severe and excessive are vague words and applying objectivity to them is silly

at least admit the connection between the word and the sexual orientation in which it demeans
over 8 years
the operative words there are "severe" and "excessive" which it was neither of. I get that you don't like the way the rules are in regards to that but please don't go blaming me for enforcing the rules correctly
over 8 years

Bebop says

@Devon that's a real interesting and incorrect way to take what I said


no its not

you literally told me 3 times that it would be a harassment vio over a hateful comments vio if it had to be one

now bebop tell me which vio is described as:

"Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, mental capabilities, and other personal circumstances."

and i'll give you a hint: it's not harassment
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sl0nderman says

I expect everyone here to be appropriately dealt with


AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
over 8 years

Edark says

wtf are you guys doing????


over 8 years
I expect everyone here to be appropriately dealt with
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Ban bebop for slurring @error?
over 8 years
wtf are you guys doing????
over 8 years
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