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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

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Alex says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Were you a hall monitor in school? Did you get beat up?


If/when I was a hall monitor, I was the type you cowered before.


oh my lord EM forums are back


I am the law.
about 7 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Were you a hall monitor in school? Did you get beat up?


If/when I was a hall monitor, I was the type you cowered before.


oh my lord EM forums are back
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Recidivism says

It's okay UnknownGangster I have good news, you won't be a virgin long, lacey likes you. She wants you to monitor her hall, I can tell.


you upset me so much
deletedabout 7 years
Jokes on this guy, I ruined my OWN relationship!
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UnknownGangster says

I will ruin you in ways you can't even begin to imagine if you really keep at it.

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FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO EXPLAINS THIS BETTER THAN I POSSIBLY COULD!
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Your empty meek psychotic threats worked about as well on me as I imagine they work in real life. I don't need no mods.
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I welcome it. It'll be a challenge.
about 7 years

Recidivism says

My real name is Dakota Lock, I live on the west slope of Colorado. I'm 6'7 and I grew up street fighting. It's nice to meet you!


We'll see how much your height and street fighting skills help you against a systematic online and real-life tyrade of harassment where you end up fired, expelled and dumped from any relationship and workplace you try to excel in.

I will ruin you in ways you can't even begin to imagine if you really keep at it.
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My real name is Dakota Lock, I live on the west slope of Colorado. I'm 6'7 and I grew up street fighting. It's nice to meet you!
about 7 years

Recidivism says

I think most people IRL would be thrilled to see someone who said they got a guy expelled for weed and hopes people fear him get dunked on by someone smarter, funnier, and gosh darn, just more charming.


Oh trust me, that scumbag was only half as harsh a bully to me as you are. You will have far more coming your way if you continue, you better hope I don't find who you are IRL.

You can go run to the mods about this post but I never directly threatened you, whereas what you did is a direct violation.
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And believe him, he KNOWS what bullying feels like. He is, after all, a hall monitor.
about 7 years

Zayn says

I wonder what your friends would think Mr. Gangster when you tell them you’re being bullied online


I'm not being bullied but he is trying to do so.

The concept of bullying requires that the victim ends up on the bottom of the scenario but in the long run Recidivism is the victim of a very brutal punishment and I am the one smirking.
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Recidivism you are an e-bully I can’t fückin believe you’d stoop so low as to TROLL someone on the INTERWEBS
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I think most people IRL would be thrilled to see someone who said they got a guy expelled for weed and hopes people fear him get dunked on by someone smarter, funnier, and gosh darn, just more charming.
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I wonder what your friends would think Mr. Gangster when you tell them you’re being bullied online
about 7 years

Recidivism says

Do you guys have any idea how lucky it is that this guy made this thread while I'm writing final papers? I feel like I won the lottery.


As good a student as you are a mod, I see. :)
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Please oh please tell me you’re gonna stop. Your friends would be horrified to hear that you got a red star removed from a username on a mafia website that you wouldn’t dare even admit to playing irl please just end this madness
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Is he a hall monitor or a gangster? I can't tell


You can simply call me the bringer of your downfall.


Is it Mr. Bringer of my Downfall? Sir? Lord?


You think you are funny but you are really quite pathetic.

The difference between us is that people here are laughing asking who knows what I do online IRL but I wonder how many people IRL know what a bully you are like here.
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Do you guys have any idea how lucky it is that this guy made this thread while I'm writing final papers? I feel like I won the lottery.
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No Mr. Gangster please have mercy on Recidivism. Please oh please don’t get him removed as a role moderator on Epicmafia.com omg please you’re taking this way too far please stop oh lord please I beg you please stop
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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Is he a hall monitor or a gangster? I can't tell


You can simply call me the bringer of your downfall.


Is it Mr. Bringer of my Downfall? Sir? Lord?
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UnknownGangster says

He will abuse anyone to get a laugh.


He's not wrong lol
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about 7 years

Recidivism says

Is he a hall monitor or a gangster? I can't tell


You can simply call me the bringer of your downfall.