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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Were you a hall monitor in school? Did you get beat up?


If/when I was a hall monitor, I was the type you cowered before.


what kind of a weird fantasy is this
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This is the best thread epicmafia has had in months
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it's 2017
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After that post, you might as well be wearing a flashing neon sign around your neck saying "I got bullied in high school"
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Are you going to make epicmafia hell for me?
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Recidivism says

It's hard to cower before someone locked in a locker


It's easy to cower before someone who has both the teachers and your former victims on his side as he makes you pss yourself begging him to stop making everyday of school hell for you.
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lol
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It's hard to cower before someone locked in a locker
about 7 years

Recidivism says

Were you a hall monitor in school? Did you get beat up?


If/when I was a hall monitor, I was the type you cowered before.
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Were you a hall monitor in school? Did you get beat up?
about 7 years

Recidivism says

Will you post this post to the report?


If you spam the same question again then that's spamming as well as trolling. the question on its own is fine.
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Will you post this post to the report?
about 7 years

Recidivism says

I admit to intentional harassment and trolling here. You are under the false assumption that I would care if I got a violation, and also that I won't get away with it/


I will post this to the report as well.
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I admit to intentional harassment and trolling here. You are under the false assumption that I would care if I got a violation, and also that I won't get away with it/
about 7 years

Recidivism says

Please do. I want to make sure my mod friends see all of my good posts


You have admitted to intentional harassment and trolling here. You have left yourself with no outs.
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Please do. I want to make sure my mod friends see all of my good posts
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Please scroll over my red star. You will see that I am a moderator, and a very important one. As Nelson from The Simpsons would say: "Ha ha!"


A moderator can break the rules. :)


Yeah but all of my fellow mod buddies will be corrupt as heck and just laugh at you with me


Will post this to the report.
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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Please scroll over my red star. You will see that I am a moderator, and a very important one. As Nelson from The Simpsons would say: "Ha ha!"


A moderator can break the rules. :)


Yeah but all of my fellow mod buddies will be corrupt as heck and just laugh at you with me
about 7 years

Recidivism says

Please scroll over my red star. You will see that I am a moderator, and a very important one. As Nelson from The Simpsons would say: "Ha ha!"


A moderator can break the rules. :)
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Please scroll over my red star. You will see that I am a moderator, and a very important one. As Nelson from The Simpsons would say: "Ha ha!"
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This thread is like a manual explaining the physics and aerodynamics behind the cheap knockoff drone you bought for 7.99 at the gas station


Perhaps you should go and post discussion threads about the setups worth more then instead of wasting your time and energy posting on these 7.99 threads. :)


It's not a waste of I'm laughing at you, because it's jovial


So this thread, which you falsely claim is pointless, is WORTH posting to several times instead of the threads that matter more? :)


I've redefined it. I've given it a new purpose and life. That purpose is making fun of you.


You admit to trolling/harassment here, enjoy the report.
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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This thread is like a manual explaining the physics and aerodynamics behind the cheap knockoff drone you bought for 7.99 at the gas station


Perhaps you should go and post discussion threads about the setups worth more then instead of wasting your time and energy posting on these 7.99 threads. :)


It's not a waste of I'm laughing at you, because it's jovial


So this thread, which you falsely claim is pointless, is WORTH posting to several times instead of the threads that matter more? :)


I've redefined it. I've given it a new purpose and life. That purpose is making fun of you.
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Recidivism says


Greninja says

the point i'm getting at is that cloudminion in no context deserves pixels


The idea that pixels are something you can deserve is funny in and of itself


look buddy i earned all of my pixels fair and square and i won't have you besmirch them with your tomfoolery
about 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This thread is like a manual explaining the physics and aerodynamics behind the cheap knockoff drone you bought for 7.99 at the gas station


Perhaps you should go and post discussion threads about the setups worth more then instead of wasting your time and energy posting on these 7.99 threads. :)


It's not a waste of I'm laughing at you, because it's jovial


So this thread, which you falsely claim is pointless, is WORTH posting to several times instead of the threads that matter more? :)
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jovial reminds me of jocular, and jocular sounds like smock, and i love to smock weed.